How I think things should be solved...-BCS

[tigers527]

I think there should be a playoff....WO easy there you say??? My thoughts however are these, I think there should be a 12 team playoff. 12!!! you might say, but here's how it works.....The 1-4 teams get a bye, and the 5-12 teams play to meat those 1-4 teams.

This situation might put the "entire" bowl system at risk, but here is how it could save it, and make it better. All playoff teams of the better seed get to play at the closest to home "playoff" game at the bowl of their choice. For example...the Michigan Wolverines would play their first game at the Motor City Bowl, even including the Boise folks playing in Boise, should their seed merit it.

[redlegsfan21]

That has got to be the stupidest idea ever. A playoff system. That would never work. It wouldn't be sucessful. All the best teams in a tournament instead of 2 teams picked by a computer, dumb idea.

[efin98]

That has got to be the stupidest idea ever. A playoff system. That would never work. It wouldn't be sucessful. All the best teams in a tournament instead of 2 teams picked by a computer, dumb idea.

When has a computer ever been wrong before :D

[CCN]

When has a computer ever been wrong before :D
Ever watch the Jetson's?

Myles Brand is a stoop, is a stoop, is a stoop.

[efin98]

Ever watch the Jetson's?

Myles Brand is a stoop, is a stoop, is a stoop.

I'm more of a 2001 fan(note the sarcasm there ;) )

There are multiple documented cases of the BCS not working or outright stealing titles and chances from teams, this year will end up being another one in a long history for the series.

[redlegsfan21]

I'm more of a 2001 fan(note the sarcasm there ;) )

There are multiple documented cases of the BCS not working or outright stealing titles and chances from teams, this year will end up being another one in a long history for the series.
Not if Florida loses and USC goes to the Championship with OSU winning it all.

[CCN]

I'm more of a 2001 fan(note the sarcasm there ;) )

There are multiple documented cases of the BCS not working or outright stealing titles and chances from teams, this year will end up being another one in a long history for the series.
Why? I have no problem with an OSU-USC game should Southern Cal win out. If the two best teams are playing in the final game, what's wrong with that?

[efin98]

Not if Florida loses and USC goes to the Championship with OSU winning it all.

But if OSU doesn't win it all they have a real problem on their hands- who is the real champion and who isn't. Another split championship is inevitable.

Before you tout your OSU fandom, think back to last year and USC and Miami a few years ago- sure things who lost the title game to the teams they were supposed to blow out.

[CCN]

But if OSU doesn't win it all they have a real problem on their hands- who is the real champion and who isn't. Another split championship is inevitable.

Before you tout your OSU fandom, think back to last year and USC and Miami a few years ago- sure things who lost the title game to the teams they were supposed to blow out.
Considering how close OSU came to losing on their home field, albeit to the second-ranked team, there is no way any matchup, be it USC or Florida is a guaranteed win for them.

If OSU loses, Michigan needs to lose, as does Florida if the current situation plays out. Not overly likely, but remember a couple years ago, when Oregon and Auburn weren't chosen as BCS teams. Beyond all the whining, they lost their bowl games. End of arguments.

How much longer are the TV deals?

[redlegsfan21]

Considering how close OSU came to losing on their home field, albeit to the second-ranked team, there is no way any matchup, be it USC or Florida is a guaranteed win for them.

If OSU loses, Michigan needs to lose, as does Florida if the current situation plays out. Not overly likely, but remember a couple years ago, when Oregon and Auburn weren't chosen as BCS teams. Beyond all the whining, they lost their bowl games. End of arguments.

How much longer are the TV deals?
Well, Michigan is most definately the 2nd best team in the nation but it would be interesting to see a round robin between Ohio St., Michigan, Florida, and USC. I would like add Boise St., Wisconsin, Oklahoma, and another team to it as well.

[CCN]

Well, Michigan is most definately the 2nd best team in the nation but it would be interesting to see a round robin between Ohio St., Michigan, Florida, and USC. I would like add Boise St., Wisconsin, Oklahoma, and another team to it as well.
LSU? Louisville? If Rutgers does beat West Virginia they have a legit argument to be there, as well.
There'll always be someone left out. If there ever were to be a playoff I'd think 16 teams would be a solid number and would easily accomodate non-BCS schools like Boise St or Utah a few years ago, plus loaded conferences like the SEC or a three-team top heavy Big 10. 32 would probably be too much.
Is Michigan definitely the 2nd best team in the country? They've had their struggles this year, like so many one and two-loss teams. The fact they played Ohio State so closely and had a legit shot to win if it weren't for that stupid (on the player's part) roughing penalty gives them a good argument, but there's always an argument.

[efin98]

Well, Michigan is most definately the 2nd best team in the nation but it would be interesting to see a round robin between Ohio St., Michigan, Florida, and USC. I would like add Boise St., Wisconsin, Oklahoma, and another team to it as well.

A round robin between the best teams in the country is nothing more than another name for a tournament. That is the only way to solve all issues, the best team wins.

[redlegsfan21]

A round robin between the best teams in the country is nothing more than another name for a tournament. That is the only way to solve all issues, the best team wins.
I just think a round robin is more interesting because it gives every team a chance to play everyone else where in a tournament, that team just plays a handful of opponents.

[efin98]

I just think a round robin is more interesting because it gives every team a chance to play everyone else where in a tournament, that team just plays a handful of opponents.

You still exclude many worthy contenders from the tournament and it still doesn't solve the inevitable question of who is the champion god forbid the undefeated team lose.

A single elimination, 16 team tournament is the only viable option to solve issues.

[brady_branch]

Completely agree with efin98. The world must be coming to an end. :D

[tigers527]

Ok, I orgianlly thought that a 12 (with the top 4 teams getting a bye) team playoff would be pretty good. But in a way that would be unfair to the other teams with the same records (that are ranked 5-10ish depending on the year)....So I thought that perhaps this would be the best system? An 8-15 team playoff, with any undeafeated teams getting a bye. If a season were to happen where more then 8 teams are undeafeated....uh oh???

If we were to take this system to the current year here's how the match ups would happen

1 OSU v bye....waiting on the winner of Oklahoma v USC
2 Boise v bye...waiting on the winner of Wisconsin v Auburn
3 Florida v 14 Virginia Tech played at the Citrus Bowl
4 Michigan v 13 West Virginia U played at the Motor City Bowl
5 LSU v 12 Arkansas played at the Sugar Bowl
6 Louisville v 11 ND played at the Music City Bowl (that's the one in Nashville? isn't it?)
7 Wisconsin v 10 Auburn played at the International Bowl (or Motor City, is there one closer???)
8 Oklahoma v 9 USC played at the Alamo Bowl (unless another venue is closer to Okla?)

Trying to keep the higher seeds close to home, in round 1, if possible.....It might be suggested that a bowl should/could be moved to the north central region.

If the top seeds win rd 2 would be

1 OSU v 8 Oklahoma
2 Boise v 7 Wisconsin
3 Florida v 6 Louisville
4 Michigan v 5 LSU

Now perhaps aside from Boise being a tad high ranked (reward for being undeafeated...and did the play a division II school like Florida?). Now if Florida goes out and beats OSU and Boise beats Oklahoma? Am I the only one that think Boise should of got a shot?

[redlegsfan21]

Well, I kinda like the idea but I like this one better. Have a playoff system with only undefeates. Like this year, only Boise St. and Ohio St. would be playing but if there were 3, then the team ranked highest in the AP would get a bye. Same with 5, 6, 7, 9, ect. Now if there are only one-loss teams, then all one-loss teams would be in the tournament. This way, you can avoid all controversy except those started by others (Pac-10 officials). Short and sweet. The only problem is teams will start to have weak non-conference schedules.

[CCN]

Well, I kinda like the idea but I like this one better. Have a playoff system with only undefeates. Like this year, only Boise St. and Ohio St. would be playing but if there were 3, then the team ranked highest in the AP would get a bye. Same with 5, 6, 7, 9, ect. Now if there are only one-loss teams, then all one-loss teams would be in the tournament. This way, you can avoid all controversy except those started by others (Pac-10 officials). Short and sweet. The only problem is teams will start to have weak non-conference schedules.
And if there were one, like this year? No title game?
Why does the AP poll get te nod as the qualifier?

[brady_branch]

Ok, I orgianlly thought that a 12 (with the top 4 teams getting a bye) team playoff would be pretty good. But in a way that would be unfair to the other teams with the same records (that are ranked 5-10ish depending on the year)....So I thought that perhaps this would be the best system? An 8-15 team playoff, with any undeafeated teams getting a bye. If a season were to happen where more then 8 teams are undeafeated....uh oh???

If we were to take this system to the current year here's how the match ups would happen

1 OSU v bye....waiting on the winner of Oklahoma v USC
2 Boise v bye...waiting on the winner of Wisconsin v Auburn
3 Florida v 14 Virginia Tech played at the Citrus Bowl
4 Michigan v 13 West Virginia U played at the Motor City Bowl
5 LSU v 12 Arkansas played at the Sugar Bowl
6 Louisville v 11 ND played at the Music City Bowl (that's the one in Nashville? isn't it?)
7 Wisconsin v 10 Auburn played at the International Bowl (or Motor City, is there one closer???)
8 Oklahoma v 9 USC played at the Alamo Bowl (unless another venue is closer to Okla?)

Trying to keep the higher seeds close to home, in round 1, if possible.....It might be suggested that a bowl should/could be moved to the north central region.

If the top seeds win rd 2 would be

1 OSU v 8 Oklahoma
2 Boise v 7 Wisconsin
3 Florida v 6 Louisville
4 Michigan v 5 LSU

Now perhaps aside from Boise being a tad high ranked (reward for being undeafeated...and did the play a division II school like Florida?). Now if Florida goes out and beats OSU and Boise beats Oklahoma? Am I the only one that think Boise should of got a shot?

You do realize that you have nine teams that didn't win their (BCS) conference over one team that did, right? And one that lost the same conference over the one that won it? And one that didn't win a BCS conference over one that DID win a BCS conference? I like the idea, but not the teams.

[redlegsfan21]

And if there were one, like this year? No title game?
Why does the AP poll get the nod as the qualifier?
There are two this year, but if there were only one, automatic champion, makes the process so simple.
The AP Poll gets the nod because they were the first poll to realize that the BCS stinks.

[tigers527]

You do realize that you have nine teams that didn't win their (BCS) conference over one team that did, right? And one that lost the same conference over the one that won it? And one that didn't win a BCS conference over one that DID win a BCS conference? I like the idea, but not the teams.

I realize very little...but I am not the fellow that makes the rankings. Complaining about being 16th is not as bad as complaining about being 3rd.

You have a great point....I would guess you make the same point every time the NCAA basketball tournament happens???? Or at least the year Villinova beat Georgetown in the finals? (as Georgetown beat Villinova 3 times in the regular season)????

Maybe the voters need to be looked at, but the Idea, I would think would be one where the "Bowls" (depending on the year and their location) make their money, and the system can still be somewhat preserved.

Afterall, no one seems to complain when a NCAA basketball team wins the title without winning their conference.

As to the "weakining" of the non conference schedule???? Is it just me (I could be wrong) didn't Florida play more division 2 schools then Boise St?

That said....the BcS stinks....How can you tell an undeafeated team they lose? The BcS has done this before, and will again. I root for the BcS looking bad, focusing on an eventual playoff, which is more then the add one they are looking for. Although, with my thoughts....the add one would be to face 2 bye teams....so a 6 team playoff. not all bad???