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redlegsfan21
10-22-2006, 06:05 PM
By RALPH D. RUSSO
ANN ARBOR, Mich. (AP) -Not even "Snakes on a Plane" got this much advance publicity.

No. 1 Ohio State and No. 2 Michigan are a little less than a month away from their annual Big Ten grudge match, and it's all football fans in Columbus and Ann Arbor are talking about.

The players and coaches are another matter.

The winner of the Nov. 18 showdown in Ohio Stadium will most certainly play in the Bowl Championship Series title game Jan. 8 in Arizona. Maybe even the loser, too.

The Wolverines have three games left. So do the Buckeyes. Mere formalities, really.

Think no-lead-is-safe Northwestern is going to get in the way of the Game of Century? The Wildcats, having just blown the biggest lead in major college football to Michigan State, play Michigan next week and the Buckeyes on Nov. 11.

The Wolverines (8-0, 5-0) also play Ball State - not even Cardinals alum David Letterman could come up with 10 ways for Ball State to beat Michigan - and Indiana. Yep, the same Hoosiers who lost 44-3 to the Buckeyes on Saturday.

The Buckeyes get Minnesota at home next week. The Gophers nearly lost at home to North Dakota State on Saturday. Next!

The week after that, the Buckeyes travel to Champaign, Ill. Ron Zook has better chance of being elected mayor of Gainesville, Fla., than getting his Illini to beat Jim Tressel's Buckeyes.

Tressel, Wolverines coach Lloyd Carr and their teams are sticking to the appropriate talking points. "The next game is the most important game," they say.

But even as they desperately try to stick to the script, cracks are revealed.

"We don't live in a vacuum," Carr said after Michigan dusted off Iowa on Saturday. "We know what's out there, and it's exciting to be there. We won't deny that. But the job isn't finished."

The Hawkeyes represented the last reasonable chance for either the Wolverines or Buckeyes to lose before Nov. 18.

Iowa made Michigan work, but the Wolverines' sledgehammer of a defense kept the Hawkeyes out of the end zone and UM tailback Mike Hart - at 5-foot-9, the smallest battering ram in the country - scored two second-half TDs to give the Wolverines a 20-6 victory.

In Columbus, Troy Smith, Ted Ginn. Jr. and Ohio State's flying circus offense were putting together a highlight-reel victory against Indiana.

Smith threw four more touchdown passes, dancing away from pass rushers and flicking darts down field. The speedy Ginn even showed off his arm, tossing a 38-yard touchdown pass.

Maybe Tressel was giving Wolverines defensive coordinator Ron English something to think about. When Michigan actually starts thinking about Ohio State, that is.

Because for now, it's all about Northwestern next week for the Wolverines.

Yeah, right.

You guys take 'em one at a time. The rest of us are already delving into the juicy possibilities of a second No. 1 vs. No. 2 matchup of the season, and all the BCS what-ifs that go with it.

Here's the best one: What if Michigan and Ohio State play a close game? An overtime classic - a one-point fantastic finish decided by a last-second score?

What if the winner is the only unbeaten team left when the regular season ends Dec. 2?

Could Nov. 18 just be Round 1 between Michigan and Ohio State, a rematch coming in Glendale, Ariz., with the national title on the line?

Really, it's not that crazy an idea.

There are only seven unbeaten teams left in Division I-A: Michigan, Ohio State, three Big East teams (Louisville, West Virginia and Rutgers), USC and Boise State.

Boise State doesn't count in this discussion and the Big East schools all play each other. USC still must play California and Notre Dame.

Can the college football world handle Wolverines-Buckeyes II?

It'd certainly go over better than "Snakes on a Plane II."

Ralph D. Russo covers college football for The Associated Press. Write to him at rrusso(at)ap.org

http://sports.myway.com/news/10222006/v3530.html

brady_branch
10-23-2006, 06:34 AM
My Wildcats get to play spoiler... hmmm... what would happen if they beat both of them? That would open up a gate for one of my other favorite teams, USC, to play in the title! Cool! Of course, it's never going to happen...

football junkie
10-25-2006, 12:51 PM
Game of the Century! No, Game of the Millennium! The fate of the whole free-world, nay the whole universe depends on the outcome.

Seriously though, this is going to be Ohio State in another blowout. Yes, I know Chad Henne is more than adequate and that Mike Hart is a firecracker but Ohio State is just so good. (They're so good it's like you've been working outside all day in the frigid winter and you get to come inside and take a steaming hot shower! Ahh....so good!)

The Big Ten team to watch, no surprise, is Wisconsin. They're 7-1, their only loss coming to Michigan on 23 Sept. This week they play 2-6 Illinios at home, followed by Penn State at home, then Iowa on the road and they finish up with a cupcake -- Buffalo at home. I can see them running the table and finishing the regular season 11-1. They get no respect in the polls. But finishing 11-1, with the only loss being to Michigan would almost certainly have to get them a BCS bowl game.

But besides hijacking your thread for a minute to talk about the Badgers, does anybody really think Michigan has a legit shot of winning this game? Ohio State just has too many weapons: Pittman, Wells, Ginn, Gonzalez. And the defense has only allowed 8.3 points per game all season, Michigan's defense has allowed 12.6 points per game and Ohio State has played the tougher schedule.

football junkie
10-25-2006, 12:54 PM
My Wildcats get to play spoiler... hmmm... what would happen if they beat both of them? That would open up a gate for one of my other favorite teams, USC, to play in the title! Cool! Of course, it's never going to happen...

If Ohio State beats Michigan on 18 November and USC beats Notre Dame on 25 Nov., then Ohio State and USC will be in the BCS Championship Game.

So you can win by losing, too.

Snake
10-25-2006, 01:54 PM
I actually see Michigan winning this one. When these 2 get together, you can throw out the records, the strength of schedule, the rankings; it just doesn't matter. This is gonna be 2 bullies on the block squaring off to see who is the meanest , toughest S.O.B. and this year that role will be played by the Wolverines.

A quote from an '80s movie classic- "Wolverines!!! Attack!!"

redlegsfan21
10-25-2006, 06:19 PM
I decided that I'm putting up a poll.

brady_branch
10-27-2006, 05:24 PM
OSU is the best team in the nation. No doubt about it. None whatsoever. What they did to Texas was amazing, and there's not a sportswriter in the nation who doesn't agree with me. Michigan beat Notre Dame, but they're not in the same league as OSU.

soberdennis
10-28-2006, 05:45 PM
If Ohio State beats Michigan on 18 November and USC beats Notre Dame on 25 Nov., then Ohio State and USC will be in the BCS Championship Game.

So you can win by losing, too.
Somebody forgot to tell Oregon State.:D

soberdennis
10-28-2006, 05:46 PM
The game of the third millenium maybe. But I have to see the game before I label it anything more.

brady_branch
10-29-2006, 08:03 AM
Somebody forgot to tell Oregon State.:D

Still, if WVU loses to Rutgers and beats Louisville, and Louisville beats Rutgers, then the title game could still feature USC, if Northwestern upsets OSU, and OSU beats Michigan.

soberdennis
10-29-2006, 02:52 PM
I feel that it is too early to say who is going to win. But with USC losing, it makes the game all the bigger.
I know they have played before with one team No.1. (1969 is just one example). But have they ever 1-2?

redlegsfan21
11-11-2006, 05:17 PM
It's gonna be #1 vs. #2.

racosun
11-13-2006, 08:52 AM
I'm a big U-of-M fan (as you can see by my avatar and sig line). That said, are there any Ohio State fans that want to place a friendly wager on the upcoming game? Maybe avatars and sig lines until a day before the bowl games? Just thought I'd throw that out there. I'm sure there will be a taker or two.

Go Blue!

brady_branch
11-13-2006, 09:23 AM
Raco, my friend, you've gotta really bug redlegsfan to get him to make a bet with you. And I mean REALLY bug him.

redlegsfan21
11-13-2006, 03:09 PM
Raco, my friend, you've gotta really bug redlegsfan to get him to make a bet with you. And I mean REALLY bug him.
Thats not an open invitation.

redlegsfan21
11-13-2006, 03:09 PM
Double Post

racosun
11-13-2006, 03:29 PM
Well, I wouldn't blame him if he didn't want to wager. As an Ohio State fan, he'd look awfully ridiculous wearing all that Maize and Blue. <sets bait out and hides behind tree>

redlegsfan21
11-13-2006, 09:15 PM
Well, I wouldn't blame him if he didn't want to wager. As an Ohio State fan, he'd look awfully ridiculous wearing all that Maize and Blue. <sets bait out and hides behind tree>
All I have to say is wait and see. Have you seen the YouTube video I have at the bottom of my signature? Its a clip from the Daily Show.

CCN
11-14-2006, 06:21 AM
So what am I supposed to do? I grew up in Michigan, came to Ohio a dozen or so years ago for my Masters and stayed, and will be watching the game at the Buckeye Hall of Fame cafe in Columbus Saturday.

Is it ok to bring my little helmet that plays the UM fight song?

racosun
11-14-2006, 10:03 AM
So what am I supposed to do? I grew up in Michigan, came to Ohio a dozen or so years ago for my Masters and stayed, and will be watching the game at the Buckeye Hall of Fame cafe in Columbus Saturday.

Is it ok to bring my little helmet that plays the UM fight song?

You might want to bring a much bigger (and safer) helmet. ;)

racosun
11-14-2006, 10:08 AM
All I have to say is wait and see. Have you seen the YouTube video I have at the bottom of my signature? Its a clip from the Daily Show.

Yeah, that's some funny stuff. Perfect representations of both sides, lol.

brady_branch
11-14-2006, 02:24 PM
So what am I supposed to do? I grew up in Michigan, came to Ohio a dozen or so years ago for my Masters and stayed, and will be watching the game at the Buckeye Hall of Fame cafe in Columbus Saturday.

Is it ok to bring my little helmet that plays the UM fight song?

Only if you enjoy being beat up.

efin98
11-14-2006, 07:33 PM
So what am I supposed to do? I grew up in Michigan, came to Ohio a dozen or so years ago for my Masters and stayed, and will be watching the game at the Buckeye Hall of Fame cafe in Columbus Saturday.

Is it ok to bring my little helmet that plays the UM fight song?

You can bring it only if you come clad in maize and blue.

Snake
11-14-2006, 10:19 PM
So what am I supposed to do? I grew up in Michigan, came to Ohio a dozen or so years ago for my Masters and stayed, and will be watching the game at the Buckeye Hall of Fame cafe in Columbus Saturday.

Is it ok to bring my little helmet that plays the UM fight song?


Hehe, sure. Just make sure you are wearing your Tim Biakabatuka jersey as well ;)

CCN
11-17-2006, 10:56 AM
Only if you enjoy being beat up.
By Ohioans? Hmm, where is the laughing avatar.

efin98
11-17-2006, 07:27 PM
By Ohioans? Hmm, where is the laughing avatar.

Beware of the team that is crazy enough to nickname themselves after a tree :eek:

redlegsfan21
11-18-2006, 06:38 AM
Beware of the team that is crazy enough to nickname themselves after a tree :eek:
Ohio Buckeye is the state tree of Ohio and an original term of endearment for the pioneers on the Ohio frontier, with specific association with William Henry Harrison. Subsequently, the use of the term for the Ohio State University sports teams made the term a widely known title for any graduate of the university.

Of small but interesting note is the Buckeye confection, made to resemble the tree's poisonous nut, which is made by dipping a dollop of peanut butter fudge in milk chocolate. These are a popular treat throughout Ohio, especially during the Christmas season.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_Buckeye

brady_branch
11-18-2006, 09:47 AM
Ohio Buckeye is the state tree of Ohio and an original term of endearment for the pioneers on the Ohio frontier, with specific association with William Henry Harrison. Subsequently, the use of the term for the Ohio State University sports teams made the term a widely known title for any graduate of the university.

Of small but interesting note is the Buckeye confection, made to resemble the tree's poisonous nut, which is made by dipping a dollop of peanut butter fudge in milk chocolate. These are a popular treat throughout Ohio, especially during the Christmas season.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_Buckeye

Those are GOOD. Never heard 'em called "buckeyes", though. Guess it's an Ohio thing.

racosun
11-18-2006, 05:26 PM
...Congrats to Ohio State and their fans on today's big win over Michigan. It was truly an instant classic, and it was close enough to continue the debate over whether there should be a rematch for the National Title. Personally, I'm not for a rematch. I agree with those that have said if you can't even win your conference, you shouldn't be able to play for the whole enchilada.

Today's game was awesome. It was every bit the battle everyone expected it to be. I was really disappointed in Michigan's porous defense, especially that weak zone that Ohio State was able to pick apart all day long. But the players made the plays, and Ohio State rarely dropped a pass. They won, and deservedly so.

Snake
11-18-2006, 10:38 PM
Ya, there was a reason they were in that weak zone though. I don't know of any defensive backfield in the country that can cover the Ohio State WRs man to man on a consistent basis. If you try that, then you have to blitz and get great pressure on Smith. If you are not able to get the pressure on Smith, you will not be able to stay with those WRs. I had some serious doubts that Ohio State was the legitimate #1 team, but I have no doubts now. I have a feeling that Troy Smith solidified his Heisman with that game, and deservedly so. It doesnt seem like that long ago that he was a highly touted athletic prospect that happened to be a QB. Now he is one of the best QBs in the country, both with his arm and his smarts. Very impressive win for the Buckeyes.

boomer
11-19-2006, 07:24 AM
An excellent game. Sometimes these things don't live up to the hype, but this was terrific.

I wouldn't complain about a rematch.

CCN
11-20-2006, 12:41 PM
An excellent game. Sometimes these things don't live up to the hype, but this was terrific.

I wouldn't complain about a rematch.
Nor would I, but I feel it is USC's game to lose. Their earlier (and early) victory over Arkansas gives them the edge should they win out.
Michigan will just have to play Florida. But I'm prepared to be wrong with my predictions.

brady_branch
11-20-2006, 02:06 PM
If USC defeats Notre Dame by a sizable margin, then they should go to the title game. They will then have beaten three Top-10 teams (at some point in the season), whereas Michigan will have beaten one, and lost to another. And if, as I said, USC beats ND by a sizable margin, then the one top-10 team Michigan beat will also have been beaten by USC, thus canceling it out. However, if USC loses, Michigan (or possibly Arkansas) should go.