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philkid3
10-29-2008, 11:27 PM
This is a topic I'm passionate about, so I thought I'd get PSF's outlook.

I didn't include it in the poll, but I would also like to know if you describe yourself as more a fan of pro football, college football or both equally.

Seattle1
10-31-2008, 05:52 AM
I am more of a fan of pro football.

I like the bowls, but would like to see the corporate names eliminated from the titles. Nokia Sugar Bowl, Tostitos Fiesta Bowl, etc. is an abomination.

brady_branch
11-01-2008, 02:41 PM
Moving to NCAA, where it seems to fit better.

redlegsfan21
11-01-2008, 06:26 PM
The only tweak I would make is to eliminate the automatic bids. Not all BCS conferences deserve a spot every year. This year, the ACC and Big East (unless the Bearcats win it) do not deserve a spot or at least Utah and Boise St. deserve it more than them.

Romosexual
11-03-2008, 05:58 PM
I really didn't think that there were still people that didn't want a playoff. The players want it, the coaches want it, the schools want it, and most of the fans want it. It's time for a change.

I'd like a 6 team playoff. Top 2 seeds get byes.

redlegsfan21
11-03-2008, 08:09 PM
I really didn't think that there were still people that didn't want a playoff. The players want it, the coaches want it, the schools want it, and most of the fans want it. It's time for a change.

I'd like a 6 team playoff. Top 2 seeds get byes.

I would like a playoff but I do not think it would be practical. It's easy in other sports because there are around 30 games and you get a good sense of whose good and whose bad and all teams that deserve it. In CFB, there will be teams that are left out that have a good shot of winning the NC unlike CBB, teams left out usually have no shot.

I like the system now, the bowls are fun and feel like National Championship games if your team is playing in it because it's the last possible game your team can win and usually you get a decent opponent.

philkid3
11-03-2008, 10:14 PM
The only tweak I would make is to eliminate the automatic bids. Not all BCS conferences deserve a spot every year. This year, the ACC and Big East (unless the Bearcats win it) do not deserve a spot or at least Utah and Boise St. deserve it more than them.

Of course, what do you think would be the reason the conferences would want to be in the BCS without an auto-bid? And, on the same token, why should the people making the rules want to give up an auto-bid?

IThe coaches want it, the schools want [a playoff]. . .
I don't think this is necessarily true, and it's certainly not true for all of them. Particularly the schools.

It's also not necessarily time for a change. That has to be proven.

redlegsfan21
11-04-2008, 07:10 AM
Of course, what do you think would be the reason the conferences would want to be in the BCS without an auto-bid? And, on the same token, why should the people making the rules want to give up an auto-bid?

They have no reason because the BCS favors BCS schools. The reason the auto-bid should be given up is because conferences will be sending teams that don't deserve to be in the highest level games of the bowl season.

Right now, the BCS Bowl teams should be Alabama, Texas Tech, Penn St., Texas, Florida, USC, Utah, Boise St., Ohio St., and TCU. No conference has more than 2 teams and no team from the ACC and Big East because they don't have a good enough team. The highest rated ACC team is #20 Georgia Tech and the highest rated Big East team is #25 West Virginia. Why should they be in the BCS over #8 Utah, #10 Boise St., and #12 TCU?

philkid3
11-08-2008, 01:54 AM
They have no reason because the BCS favors BCS schools. The reason the auto-bid should be given up is because conferences will be sending teams that don't deserve to be in the highest level games of the bowl season.
But those schools are the BCS. The BCS is an affiliation of six powerful conferences. They make the rules. It's not run by some organization that allows those conferences to participate, those conferences ARE the organization.

So what reason is there for them to give up their auto bids? In otherwords, why would the ACC want to be a part of the BCS without getting an auto bid?


Right now, the BCS Bowl teams should be Alabama, Texas Tech, Penn St., Texas, Florida, USC, Utah, Boise St., Ohio St., and TCU. No conference has more than 2 teams and no team from the ACC and Big East because they don't have a good enough team. The highest rated ACC team is #20 Georgia Tech and the highest rated Big East team is #25 West Virginia.
Again, why shouldn't there be an auto bid from the Big East? It's their organization.

It's like a group of friends building a tree house, and then someone who didn't help build it telling one of the kids who built it he's not allowed to play in the treehouse.


Why should they be in the BCS over #8 Utah, #10 Boise St., and #12 TCU?
Because it's their format. If I start open a restaurant, why should I give you my earnings? Just because you're a better cook? Maybe you are, but so what? It's my restaurant.

Why should TCU be given an auto-bid when the Mountain West did not found the BCS and is not a part of the BCS? The BCS is those six conferences doing what they want because that's their legal right. It's not the NCAA picking favorites.

redlegsfan21
11-08-2008, 05:40 PM
But those schools are the BCS. The BCS is an affiliation of six powerful conferences. They make the rules. It's not run by some organization that allows those conferences to participate, those conferences ARE the organization.

So what reason is there for them to give up their auto bids? In otherwords, why would the ACC want to be a part of the BCS without getting an auto bid?



Again, why shouldn't there be an auto bid from the Big East? It's their organization.

It's like a group of friends building a tree house, and then someone who didn't help build it telling one of the kids who built it he's not allowed to play in the treehouse.



Because it's their format. If I start open a restaurant, why should I give you my earnings? Just because you're a better cook? Maybe you are, but so what? It's my restaurant.

Why should TCU be given an auto-bid when the Mountain West did not found the BCS and is not a part of the BCS? The BCS is those six conferences doing what they want because that's their legal right. It's not the NCAA picking favorites.

But the NCAA can take over since they are the governing body of college football.

philkid3
11-08-2008, 09:50 PM
But the NCAA can take over since they are the governing body of college football.

No, they can't. The Supreme Court said so.

I think this is part of where your confusion is coming from. The NCAA doesn't have the power here. It's not their call to make.

Refer to the 1984 case of NCAA v. Board of Regents. While it does not specifically rule on a post season format, it does establish that the NCAA does not, essentially, have the power to tell the conferences what to do in their own dealings. So the Supreme Court gave the conferences the legal right to establish whatever format they so choose.