View Full Version : 18-1 isn't that bad.. but then again... I guess it is...
Fumble
02-03-2008, 07:15 PM
The Giants just won Super Bowl XLII!
efin98
02-03-2008, 07:34 PM
18-1 the hard way, no other team has ever done that before. If you can't applaud the team for what they have done then you have no respect for the game of football. If you can't give credit to the Giants for playing hard and tough straight through to the last play of the game then you have no respect for the game.
Both teams played hard and played the game close to the end but the better team won. My hat is off to the Giants for their victory.
ATLFalcons
02-03-2008, 07:51 PM
That game was very entertaining, just what the Super Bowl should be. I'm mad that the Pats lost, because I was really pulling for them, but it's good to see Amani Toomer, Michael Strahan, and some of the other vets get Super Bowl rings. My hat goes off to David Tyree, he made some spectacular catches.
Seattle1
02-03-2008, 09:25 PM
That was one of the greatest Super Bowls ever. Top 5 for sure, maybe top 3.
brady_branch
02-04-2008, 05:10 AM
Best I've ever seen.
Not to be a whiny Pats fan, but did that catch Tyree made on the last drive look like it hit the ground to anyone else?
brady_branch
02-04-2008, 05:14 AM
Oh, and why was Manning the MVP? I would probably have given it to Tyree, Welker, or one of the Giants' DL, probably Umenyiora.
Oh, and why was Manning the MVP? I would probably have given it to Tyree, Welker, or one of the Giants' DL, probably Umenyiora.
I was thinking maybe Tuck, considering what he did the first half. But Manning engineered the two scoring drives in the fourth quarter and spread it around enough so no other offensive player stood out via big numbers. The way he avoided that sack really hit home with the voters, probably.
The game reminded me of a chess match. The Patriots, still probably the better team, lost because of the scheme the Giants played to near-perfection. Like somebody beating a grand master player using a simple defensive plan that takes the master out of their element.
I'm still fuming they took that cute Westy out of the Puppy Bowl, simply because he found a toy he didn't want to share.
redlegsfan21
02-04-2008, 05:29 AM
Best I've ever seen.
Not to be a whiny Pats fan, but did that catch Tyree made on the last drive look like it hit the ground to anyone else?
Not XXXVI or XXXVIII?
Brooklyn
02-04-2008, 06:09 AM
Oh, and why was Manning the MVP? I would probably have given it to Tyree, Welker, or one of the Giants' DL, probably Umenyiora.
With the Giants up 10-7, I thought Tuck deserved the MVP. As it turned out, hard to not give it to Manning with two fourth quarter TD drives.
Eli played well. The pick wasn't his fault, and the receivers had a number of drops. He was feeding the ball into double coverage all day and hitting the spot. One or two balls got away from him, but I thought he palyed a very good team.
If possible, I would have given it to the entire Giants D-Line, but if voting for just one player, Eli makes sense.
Seattle1
02-04-2008, 07:51 AM
I voted for Tuck for MVP on the NFL.com fan poll myself.
Yes I think the point of the ball grazed the turf when Tyree came down, but he had it clamped down against his helmet real good and it didn't budge, so in my mind it's a clean catch.
brady_branch
02-04-2008, 09:41 AM
Still, it was probably at least worth a review. Even if it was upheld, you can't just assume on something that crucial.
Brooklyn
02-04-2008, 10:41 AM
Still, it was probably at least worth a review. Even if it was upheld, you can't just assume on something that crucial.
Watching it, I was surprised that BBelichick didn't throw the flag. I don't think it would have been overturned, but he had nothing to lose.
brady_branch
02-04-2008, 11:06 AM
Wasn't it within the last two minutes?
Seattle1
02-04-2008, 01:02 PM
Wasn't it within the last two minutes?
Yes, it would have had to come from the booth.
efin98
02-04-2008, 08:43 PM
It was the most watched Super Bowl of all time passing Super Bowl XXX and was the second most watched event in the history of television behind only the M*A*S*H finale.
It was the most watched Super Bowl of all time passing Super Bowl XXX and was the second most watched event in the history of television behind only the M*A*S*H finale.
I wonder if the cast of that M*A*S*H episode (all still alive, I believe) get together around every Super Bowl and behave like the '72 Dolphins, bitterly protesting anything close to what they accomplished.
Brooklyn
02-05-2008, 09:37 AM
I wonder if the cast of that M*A*S*H episode (all still alive, I believe) get together around every Super Bowl and behave like the '72 Dolphins, bitterly protesting anything close to what they accomplished.
Larry Linville died a few years back, and Mclean Stevenson died 10 or so years ago. I believe the rest are still alive
I wonder how they estimate people watching it. I know they estimate households, but how can they estimate how many people are at any one household? More people gather for the superbowl then any other event. I always thought these events might get short changed.
While 100,000,000 people sounds like a big number, there are 300,000,000 people in the United States. If that stat is correct, then 2/3 of the people in the United States didn't watch the game. That doesn't sound possible.
Looking at it another way, the rating was a 43.3, meaning 43% of the TV's were tuned into this game. Since we know people gather, I'd think the number of watchers has to be significantly higher then 40%, thus significantly higher than 100,000,000
Larry Linville died a few years back, and Mclean Stevenson died 10 or so years ago. I believe the rest are still alive
I wonder how they estimate people watching it. I know they estimate households, but how can they estimate how many people are at any one household? More people gather for the superbowl then any other event. I always thought these events might get short changed.
While 100,000,000 people sounds like a big number, there are 300,000,000 people in the United States. If that stat is correct, then 2/3 of the people in the United States didn't watch the game. That doesn't sound possible.
Looking at it another way, the rating was a 43.3, meaning 43% of the TV's were tuned into this game. Since we know people gather, I'd think the number of watchers has to be significantly higher then 40%, thus significantly higher than 100,000,000
True, but both had left the cast well before the final episode, so they didn't play into that ratings giant. I meant the specific final episode and those involved with it. Even G.W Bailey.
While I doubt the actual number of watchers is in the billions like some have said in the past, I would agree the numbers they're throwing out are very conservative for the reasons you mentioned. The super bowl parties I have attended usually have no less than a dozen people. And it seems more and more bars and restaurants are having their own events on game day. So how do they put a total number on that? Standard Nielsen alone won't do it.
Galloping Ghost
02-05-2008, 03:15 PM
That was one of the greatest Super Bowls ever. Top 5 for sure, maybe top 3.
Maybe one of the best Super Bowl 4th quarters but one of the greatest Super Bowl games ever? I have a hard time calling this Super Bowl one of the greatest super Bowl games ever when the score was 7-3 after three quarters.
Seattle1
02-05-2008, 03:55 PM
Maybe one of he best Super Bowl 4th quarters but one of the greatest Super Bowl games ever? I have a hard time calling this Super Bowl on of the greatest super Bowl games ever when the score was 7-3 after three quarters.
Well, I guess that doesn't really bother me. For the first three quarters it was a good defensive struggle, so it wasn't like it was a sloppily played game. Low scoring can be a virtue too.
Well, I guess that doesn't really bother me. For the first three quarters it was a good defensive struggle, so it wasn't like it was a sloppily played game. Low scoring can be a virtue too.
Very true. Turnovers weren't much of an issue and there weren't too many penalties, the only ones that stand out in my mind are that interference call on the Giants and the too many men on the field penalty that didn't hurt the Giants. There were a couple holding calls, but it was a clean, well-paced defensive game.
Which is precisely what the Giants wanted.
Brooklyn
02-06-2008, 06:37 AM
Well, I guess that doesn't really bother me. For the first three quarters it was a good defensive struggle, so it wasn't like it was a sloppily played game. Low scoring can be a virtue too.
For most of the sports I follow (football, hockey, baseball), I tend to enjoy higher scoring games in the regular season, but lower scoring games in the playoffs. I find that lower scoring games in the regular season can be boring, but the defensive struggles in the playoffs are usually extremely tense, like this super bowl certainly was.
Very true. Turnovers weren't much of an issue and there weren't too many penalties, the only ones that stand out in my mind are that interference call on the Giants and the too many men on the field penalty that didn't hurt the Giants. There were a couple holding calls, but it was a clean, well-paced defensive game.
The other penalties that stand out in my mind were Bradshaw's "illegal bat" that moved the Giants out of field goal range in the second. NE also had 4-5 false starts and holdings in the second half, which was probalby a testament to the Giants pressure.
But I agree, it was a clean, well-played defensive game
Which is precisely what the Giants wanted.
Funny thing is that all the "experts" on New York radio were saying there was no way the Giants could win without scoring 30, that their defense couldn't hold New England low enough. I agree with you, this was exactly what they needed
efin98
02-06-2008, 08:44 PM
Very true. Turnovers weren't much of an issue and there weren't too many penalties, the only ones that stand out in my mind are that interference call on the Giants and the too many men on the field penalty that didn't hurt the Giants. There were a couple holding calls, but it was a clean, well-paced defensive game.
Which is precisely what the Giants wanted.
The officials got one offsides call wrong, Giants jumped first(mentioned by announcers). The biggest things were that they missed at least one facemask and hands to the head penalty against the Giants...neither play affected the game but still should have been called.