Leinart or Young?

[brady_branch]

Which one do you think will be better this season (I know neither one of them is starting, but think of it as if they were starting)? Which do you think will have a better career? Please only pick one option for each.

[racosun]

Leinart is pretty good, but he just doesn't have the tools that Young has. I voted for Vince to have both a better year and a better career. Didn't Kurt Warner get a two or three-year deal with Arizona before they drafted Leinart? If he signs at all, Matt will be stuck behind him for at least a season and a half. I think Vince Young has only Billy Volek to leapfrog, and he could do that this season. Tennessee won't be very good, so the coaching staff may see this as the opportunity to get Young experienced and get him some playing time. With the money Arizona has spent in free-agency, they won't be using a rookie QB unless Warner goes down with another injury.

[football junkie]

The current myth about Leinart is that he doesn't have the tools Young possesses. These are myths. Leinart can make any throw necessary in the NFL. He has out-of-pocket mobility. He's much more intelligent than Young. Leinart has a much better track record in college -- playing against the best players in the country.

Young scored a 6 on the Wonderlic Test. What more do you need to know? Does everybody remember Akili Smith?

But you missed the best quarterback in the 2006 draft with this question. Jay Cutler is by far better than either of them. Had he not been surrounded by no-talents at Vanderbilt he would have been the consensus No. 1 overall pick. His arm is incredible -- Lienart and Young can't compare. He's intelligent and he's going into a great system with a great coaching staff and great fans.

I'm not saying Cutler is the next John Elway. I'm just saying he's the best in this class of QBs.

[Snake]

I find myself agreeing with football junkie. Cutler has them both beat. I don't believe that either Leinart or Young could have done what Cutler did at Vandy. If Cutler had played at at either of their schools though, he would have been a Heisman winner as well. Cutler has a rocket arm, mobility, and smarts. I also don't agree with all the naysayers about Leinart. He is very intelligent, has a strong arm, and has mental toughness. Not as mobile as the other 2, but he's no Bledsoe either. I think much was made about Young's Wonderlich score, to try to influence the draft, so to speak. By no means is Vince Young an imbecile. He does not yet have the pocket prescence that the other 2 have, but for the moment makes up for it with his speed, mobility, and arm. If/when he learns to make the proper reads/throws, he has the potential to be a good QB. Based on system/coaching staff I am giving the nod to Cutler as ending up being the best out of the 3 though.

[brady_branch]

I know Cutler's easily the best, it's just that the whole debate about the best college quarterback last year centered on Leinart and Young. Remember, Leinart beat ND with his legs. :D

[mordeci]

The current myth about Leinart is that he doesn't have the tools Young possesses. These are myths. Leinart can make any throw necessary in the NFL. He has out-of-pocket mobility. He's much more intelligent than Young. Leinart has a much better track record in college -- playing against the best players in the country.

Young scored a 6 on the Wonderlic Test. What more do you need to know? Does everybody remember Akili Smith?

But you missed the best quarterback in the 2006 draft with this question. Jay Cutler is by far better than either of them. Had he not been surrounded by no-talents at Vanderbilt he would have been the consensus No. 1 overall pick. His arm is incredible -- Lienart and Young can't compare. He's intelligent and he's going into a great system with a great coaching staff and great fans.

I'm not saying Cutler is the next John Elway. I'm just saying he's the best in this class of QBs.
I disagree with the first part. Leinart doesn't have the skills that Young has. If they both play this year Leinart will be better, but Young should be the better QB in 3-5 years.

Agree wholeheartedly with the 2nd part. Cutler is a stud. One of the best arms in the NFL, great pick. I have no idea how he got past the Lions and Cards. Don't those guys watch tape?

[football junkie]

I disagree with the first part. Leinart doesn't have the skills that Young has. If they both play this year Leinart will be better, but Young should be the better QB in 3-5 years.

Three to five years? Since when do first round quarterbacks get three to five years to mature into a decent quarterback in the NFL? That's a lifetime in this league.

And with Young's 6 on the Wonderlic Test and Norm Chow's rather complex offense -- I'd push Young's game readiness to play a lot closer to five years than three years away.

Three to five years from now we'll be thinking about Young the same way we now think about Joey Harrington, Tim Couch, Akili Smith, Cade McNown, David Carr, Patrick Ramsey, Kyle Boller, Rex Grossman, Ryan Leaf and Philip Rivers -- as colossal failures that set back their franchises for years and years to come.

Also, Matt Leinart is criminally under-rated.

[mordeci]

Three to five years? Since when do first round quarterbacks get three to five years to mature into a decent quarterback in the NFL?
Last year was Carson Palmer's 3rd year, no one was calling him a bust.

[Packer Backer]

Young was really exposed after one good game last year. I'd put him in the same boat as Vick- very athletic, but not much of a thrower.

[brady_branch]

Three to five years? Since when do first round quarterbacks get three to five years to mature into a decent quarterback in the NFL? That's a lifetime in this league.

And with Young's 6 on the Wonderlic Test and Norm Chow's rather complex offense -- I'd push Young's game readiness to play a lot closer to five years than three years away.

Three to five years from now we'll be thinking about Young the same way we now think about Joey Harrington, Tim Couch, Akili Smith, Cade McNown, David Carr, Patrick Ramsey, Kyle Boller, Rex Grossman, Ryan Leaf and Philip Rivers -- as colossal failures that set back their franchises for years and years to come.

Also, Matt Leinart is criminally under-rated.

If Leinart is criminally under-rated, then he's better than Joe Montana. Harrington was a bust, so were Couch, Smith, and McNown. Carr still has a chance if the Texans get a decent line to protect him, Ramsey is a bust, Boller was never awful, but still a bust, Grossman wasn't really a bust, he could still be good if he could just stay healthy, Leaf is definitely a bust, but Rivers hasn't played significantly yet! How can you call him a bust? Young is stupid --- and that's putting it mildly ---, there's no way he'll do well in Tennessee, and he can't pass. He'll be a bust for sure. Cutler and Leinart will both be stars.

[football junkie]

Last year was Carson Palmer's 3rd year, no one was calling him a bust.


Carson Palmer spent his whole 2nd year as a starter -- and down the stretch he was playing like a star (check the game logs.)

So it actually only took Palmer a year and a half to establish himself.

[football junkie]

If Leinart is criminally under-rated, then he's better than Joe Montana.....

Grossman wasn't really a bust, he could still be good if he could just stay healthy....

Rivers hasn't played significantly yet! How can you call him a bust?

Okay, I don't get the Montana reference at all. Did you watch Leinart throw in college? Did you see his pre-draft workouts? He looked very much better than advertised. He is mobile and he can make any throw an NFL QB will be asked to. He's also been playing three years in Norm Chow's offense. His learning curve won't be near as long as Young's or even Rivers' will be.

Grossman was a late first round draft pick and probably should never have been a starter. It's not only his health that's in question. If the Bears had any confidence in him why did they go out in the off-season and get a guy to start in front of him?

I can say Rivers is a bust because I've seen him play, practice, stand on the side-lines for two entire seasons after being the 4th overall pick in the draft -- the same draft a QB from Miami (OH) went to Pittsburgh. How has that turned out so far? By the way have you ever seen Rivers' throwing mechanics: quirky.

[tdk1984]

Cutler is the top QB in this class.

[cbenson5]

I think Brodie Croyle has the talent to be as good as Leinart or Young if he can remain injury free.

[Argonaut Fan]

Leinart had a few good plays in his most recent outing... Looked pretty solid.

[brady_branch]

The guy can run nearly as well as Young, and throw three times as well. There is no way Young is better.

[12th man seahawks fan]

I think Young is really over-hyped because of his victory over USC.

Leinert will be the future of the Cardinals organization. If he had entered the draft last year, he would have gone #1 overall, and we would probably be talking about him already.

[Carsonpalmer9]

I voted for Leinart to have a better season and for Young to have a better career. Leinart will have Boldin and Fitzgerald to throw to which means more yards and touchdowns.