View Full Version : And the Heisman Winner is.....
ATLFalcons
12-08-2007, 06:46 PM
Tim Tebow!
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NEW YORK - Tim Tebow needed only two years of college to graduate to Heisman Trophy winner, putting the sophomore in a class by himself.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22162696/
Fumble
12-11-2007, 01:47 PM
ugh..
:silent:
efin98
12-11-2007, 09:17 PM
ugh..
:silent:
And watch him end up like the last Florida Heisman winner...a flop in the NFL.
Fumble
12-12-2007, 04:46 AM
And watch him end up like the last Florida Heisman winner...a flop in the NFL.
I think that is the way people are already chalking it up, his style is best for college football, but MIGHT not work at the next level...
It was a crazy year, and Tebow produced all year. I'm not thrilled with a sophomore winning it, but he is not undeserving.
The Heisman has never pretended to be an NFL success predictor. It never should be used as such. In terms of accomplishments on the college field against top competition, Tebow is a hard choice to argue with. McFadden was a beast at times but he did have some shaky games earlier. Colt Brennan didn't have that tough a schedule and was complemented by his system. Nobody talked up Timmy Chang for the Heisman, did they? Chase Daniel had a good season, but I'd take Tebow. Dennis Dixon didn't play a full season. That counts for something.
efin98
12-12-2007, 11:04 AM
The Heisman has never pretended to be an NFL success predictor.
The winners are the top athletes in college football, to have won the award brings that expectation with them to the pros...even if it's a year award it still hangs around with the players forever.
The winners are the top athletes in college football, to have won the award brings that expectation with them to the pros...even if it's a year award it still hangs around with the players forever.
Who puts those expectations on them? If anyone believes the award should predicate a successful pro career, they haven't been paying attention, nor has that belief been stemmed from anything coming from anyone remotely close to the award or the college version of the sport.
It hangs around with the player forever because it is an honor bestowed upon them by some of the finest names in college football history. That's it. It shouldn't be taken as anymore than that, because that's all it claims to be. College and pro football are two modestly different versions of the same sport.
ATLFalcons
12-13-2007, 07:55 PM
The winners are the top athletes in college football, to have won the award brings that expectation with them to the pros...even if it's a year award it still hangs around with the players forever.
Very True.
Who puts those expectations on them? If anyone believes the award should predicate a successful pro career, they haven't been paying attention, nor has that belief been stemmed from anything coming from anyone remotely close to the award or the college version of the sport.
It hangs around with the player forever because it is an honor bestowed upon them by some of the finest names in college football history. That's it. It shouldn't be taken as anymore than that, because that's all it claims to be. College and pro football are two modestly different versions of the same sport.
The notion you fail to realize is, "he's the best in college, why can't he be a good NFL player?" I think every Heisman winner hopes they can have a good career in the pros, but they succeed in college because they have a system tailored to their strengths. The system a player plays in rarely shows off his weaknesses and that's how you get a 20-20 season like Tebow had.
The notion you fail to realize is, "he's the best in college, why can't he be a good NFL player?" I think every Heisman winner hopes they can have a good career in the pros, but they succeed in college because they have a system tailored to their strengths. The system a player plays in rarely shows off his weaknesses and that's how you get a 20-20 season like Tebow had.
No, it just isn't my notion. What you're failing to realize is the award does not present itself as a precursor to NFL success. It has never pretended to be as such, and those who complain they're giving the Heisman to a guy who won't have a good NFL career are missing the point if they think that's what the Heisman is about. The Heisman has absolutely zero to do with the NFL. It doesn't care how well the player might do, and it never should care about that.
Fumble
12-14-2007, 09:07 PM
The thing that upsets me is last year McFadden's numbers were good enough to STRONGLY push a case that he could win, but all the sports writers sat on their hands because he was an underclassman... This year, the same writers vote in Tebow...
Listen, I can not discredit Tebow one bit, but I am bummed my guy didn't win..
Why?
Because he is my guy, and he (in my opinion) should have won last year... But... as it was put last year... "underclassmen don't win the Heisman"
But..
Wait...
Hm.
:choke: